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Sandbox, worthy upgrade?

  • 1.  Sandbox, worthy upgrade?

    Posted 11-01-2019 06:54

    I recently joined Quickbase with 50 users on Premier as this is already more expensive compared to my previous apps for our business. But the flexibility is worth the investment. 

    i am having a debate on going to platform for the new sandbox mode coming out. But that is another 7k a year. 

    any feedback on if it is worth it. For most quick changes it does not seem necessary. But for some larger changes, maybe but I dont know...

    any feedback would be appreciated. 

    Ivan Weiss

  • 2.  RE: Sandbox, worthy upgrade?

    Posted 11-01-2019 10:23
    Here are some random thoughts.

    I believe that the initial target of the improved sandbox was to satisfy CTOs in large corporations that Quick Base is serious software.   Serious IT managers do not believe in maintaining airplane engines while the airplane is flying, with the mechanic hanging off the wing with a wrench.  They feel that the maintenance should be done safely, tested and the deployed to live, just like most serious software.

    Most if us who have been at this for a long time are used to the old way, which is
    1. Be Careful.
    2. Make critical changes off hours, so evenings and weekends.
    2. If unsure, make a backup copy to either test a major change, like a Key field change or to have a backup copy available to manually recover by looking back on how it used to work before we broke it, or else if all else fails reach out to Quick Base support to to recover last data or to roll back to the previous day (with potential loss of data for the current day) 

    The advantage of making changes on the fly when you mostly know what you are doing is that the changes are quick and hence low cost.

    But for example, I'm working with a client where I have written apps for 17 years and trying to train a protege to take over 1st level support.  It could be safer for some changes to be made and tested in the Sandbox because he may not know all the ramifications of a change.

    So, it's a balance of speed and expediency with higher risk vs slower but safer and with more cost, in terms of direct cost for the Subscription and also more testing investment, that has to be assessed for each App.

    In larger IT shops, the IT manager would probably just "mandate" the sandbox for any critical apps.  For the rest of us, it's a decision.   

    Mark Shnier (YQC)
    Quick Base Solution Provider
    Your Quick Base Coach

  • 3.  RE: Sandbox, worthy upgrade?

    Posted 11-01-2019 19:06
    Thanks Mark!  Sounds like a lot of paying attention and documenting what I do is the right way to go to avoid any major issues.  Lots of the changes are tiny stuff and minor corrections so that is the easier part anyway

    Ivan Weiss

  • 4.  RE: Sandbox, worthy upgrade?

    Posted 11-03-2019 14:22

    I am concurring with Mark that those are good general rules for developing on Quick Base.

    There is a little piece I also use which is number of tables.  If you have a relatively small Quick Base application at 20 tables or so then the extra $$ are probably not justified.  I have two clients that are pushing 300 tables in their core applications.   They do just about everything for the company except General Ledger.

    The Sandbox feature at that point is almost indispensable. Unless you are Sheldon Cooper, it is very hard to remember the names of 300 tables never mind how they are tied together and what reports they feed at the Great, Great, Great, Great Grandparent level.


    Don Larson
    Westlake OH

  • 5.  RE: Sandbox, worthy upgrade?

    Posted 11-03-2019 16:08

    Thanks Don! I am in the 30 table range but can start to feel on a micro level what you refer too. I had to tweak one of the first things I built the other day and needed to do sone remembering. 

    but at this size very manageable to figure it out. 

    Ivan Weiss