Forum Discussion
AustinK
6 years agoQrew Commander
I haven't had a chance to build out any full Pipelines of my own yet but there are a few running from other users. The major problem I've had so far is that Pipelines seem to be a personal thing and cannot be shared? I didn't even know another user had them up and going until I saw the step runs going down and asked around the office. It only shows you Pipelines you have made so you cannot collaborate. Also if the user that made those Pipelines are gone that day you seem to just be SOL and need to wait for them to be back to make any changes for that reason. Of course if you have a single service account you do everything with this isn't an issue.
It is annoying though because when I look at usage I see that the step runs are down but under activity nothing is shown because it isn't my Pipelines doing this. So I can't even know what is using step runs on the account. I don't know if there is a certain level of access required to see every Pipeline or what the deal is but obviously mine isn't high enough. I'm not the realm owner but I am admin on the realm.
I'm seeing the rate at which step runs get used as a big potential issue. They are split into 65 day time chunks for me. I'm not sure if everyone gets the same step runs but we got 250k over 65 days and they go FAST. Like I said above I don't know exactly how many Pipelines are running on the realm but we have used almost 25k step runs in about 10 days and I am fairly sure we are barely using Pipelines. Moving some records between some tables mostly right now as I understand it.
Considering we are mostly just testing it out right now and not doing anything critical I feel like the usage is going to get wild once we start to fully utilize Pipelines. A step run is every single little step that happens in your Pipeline. So every thing you add to it is a step run for every single record it touches. If you have 100 records that will be filtered and then a loop of 5 actions in there for each record that is going to be a minimum of 500 step runs for that as I understand it.
As far as pricing goes, I wish they laid that out. All I know is we get the 250k step runs for 65 days and after that it says we need to contact them for pricing. So no information is being released on that. I am VERY curious what the pricing costs beyond the step runs given to us because of how fast they go. I am worried the pricing may end up being pretty high since they don't list it.
It is annoying though because when I look at usage I see that the step runs are down but under activity nothing is shown because it isn't my Pipelines doing this. So I can't even know what is using step runs on the account. I don't know if there is a certain level of access required to see every Pipeline or what the deal is but obviously mine isn't high enough. I'm not the realm owner but I am admin on the realm.
I'm seeing the rate at which step runs get used as a big potential issue. They are split into 65 day time chunks for me. I'm not sure if everyone gets the same step runs but we got 250k over 65 days and they go FAST. Like I said above I don't know exactly how many Pipelines are running on the realm but we have used almost 25k step runs in about 10 days and I am fairly sure we are barely using Pipelines. Moving some records between some tables mostly right now as I understand it.
Considering we are mostly just testing it out right now and not doing anything critical I feel like the usage is going to get wild once we start to fully utilize Pipelines. A step run is every single little step that happens in your Pipeline. So every thing you add to it is a step run for every single record it touches. If you have 100 records that will be filtered and then a loop of 5 actions in there for each record that is going to be a minimum of 500 step runs for that as I understand it.
As far as pricing goes, I wish they laid that out. All I know is we get the 250k step runs for 65 days and after that it says we need to contact them for pricing. So no information is being released on that. I am VERY curious what the pricing costs beyond the step runs given to us because of how fast they go. I am worried the pricing may end up being pretty high since they don't list it.
DonLarson
6 years agoQrew Elite
Austin,
Many thanks. This cuts to exactly the concern I am hearing from customers.
A complex PHP script might be $1000 to $2000 to have a developer build it. However running it is essentially free with the caveat that there is some cost for API calls.
A Pipeline is essentially free to build because the Citizen Builders time is all in SGA but if your Pipeline then costs $1000 a month to run it, hiring a PHP developer is a total no brainer. It might even make sense to go to code school.
I sense that Pipelines will be very usefull. Hopefully the pricing will transparent and easy to explain to the customers because that is the advantage of standard development, $X for the code and done.
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Don Larson
Paasporter
Westlake OH
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Many thanks. This cuts to exactly the concern I am hearing from customers.
A complex PHP script might be $1000 to $2000 to have a developer build it. However running it is essentially free with the caveat that there is some cost for API calls.
A Pipeline is essentially free to build because the Citizen Builders time is all in SGA but if your Pipeline then costs $1000 a month to run it, hiring a PHP developer is a total no brainer. It might even make sense to go to code school.
I sense that Pipelines will be very usefull. Hopefully the pricing will transparent and easy to explain to the customers because that is the advantage of standard development, $X for the code and done.
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Don Larson
Paasporter
Westlake OH
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