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I'm trying to create an app for product owners to go through the checklist with a set of questions before releasing the product. A Product form will have a checklist type and there will be a se...
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    2 years ago
    1. Predecessors don't necessarily have to have a start and end - those are useful if you picture a gantt but a predecessor is just a requirement that something else be done before you can start, thus it's independent of any specific date. If you use native QB predecessor fields then what they will do it provide a work date field that acts as the date that item is unlocked - which is a date but for your concerns you're just trying to make sure that prior items are done - which is just the presence of a date in that case. If you're choosing to use the key field approve - then same logic more or less applies - you don't need a date, you can instead just look at the status of your predecessor tasks to determine if you're able to commence.
    2. Possibly - this would need a form entry though. In your question setup you could make a 'Sub Question Label' - that when you display it in your task you have a rich-text field display like the form label so it feels unique to each question and then have them provide an input. 
    3. Grid edit will most likely stray you further way from the subquestion component. Grid Edit is a fixed report of columns so you can't adjust the input or entry based on the question. I might suggest that you leverage buttons and the ability for OpenAsPopup and data-refresh so that your users click a question - answer it in a pop up and save - then close the window back down and refresh or open the next question. With the workflow you've described, Grid Edit will be a little too limiting unless you pare back the dynamic input style you've described. 


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I'm trying to create an app for product owners to go through the checklist with a set of questions before releasing the product.

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A Product form will have a checklist type and there will be a set of questions associated to that checklist. 

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Product table: User enter product details here and the form will have the checklist type to choose from the task table. Pipeline will run and import questions related to that checklist type

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Checklist table - Checklist name, type, checklist owner.(we have 37 different checklist)

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Questions table- same Question can be used in multiple checklist(all the questions used in the checklist is added to this repository)

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Sub questions table- will have sub question details.

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Template table - To show checklist , questions and sub questions associated with it

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Task table- Pipeline will run and import questions related to that checklist type from Join table to task tale

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Please help me with the below questions:

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  1. How to set dependency between questions ( questions might have 1 upstream or downstream dependency with another question.)

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  3. How to setup sub questions related to questions

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  5. Each question has different input types like multiple choice, link, text . How to achieve this

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  1. Predecessors don't necessarily have to have a start and end - those are useful if you picture a gantt but a predecessor is just a requirement that something else be done before you can start, thus it's independent of any specific date. If you use native QB predecessor fields then what they will do it provide a work date field that acts as the date that item is unlocked - which is a date but for your concerns you're just trying to make sure that prior items are done - which is just the presence of a date in that case. If you're choosing to use the key field approve - then same logic more or less applies - you don't need a date, you can instead just look at the status of your predecessor tasks to determine if you're able to commence.
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  3. Possibly - this would need a form entry though. In your question setup you could make a 'Sub Question Label' - that when you display it in your task you have a rich-text field display like the form label so it feels unique to each question and then have them provide an input. 
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  5. Grid edit will most likely stray you further way from the subquestion component. Grid Edit is a fixed report of columns so you can't adjust the input or entry based on the question. I might suggest that you leverage buttons and the ability for OpenAsPopup and data-refresh so that your users click a question - answer it in a pop up and save - then close the window back down and refresh or open the next question. With the workflow you've described, Grid Edit will be a little too limiting unless you pare back the dynamic input style you've described. 
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  1. Predecessors don't necessarily have to have a start and end - those are useful if you picture a gantt but a predecessor is just a requirement that something else be done before you can start, thus it's independent of any specific date. If you use native QB predecessor fields then what they will do it provide a work date field that acts as the date that item is unlocked - which is a date but for your concerns you're just trying to make sure that prior items are done - which is just the presence of a date in that case. If you're choosing to use the key field approve - then same logic more or less applies - you don't need a date, you can instead just look at the status of your predecessor tasks to determine if you're able to commence.
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  3. Possibly - this would need a form entry though. In your question setup you could make a 'Sub Question Label' - that when you display it in your task you have a rich-text field display like the form label so it feels unique to each question and then have them provide an input. 
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  5. Grid edit will most likely stray you further way from the subquestion component. Grid Edit is a fixed report of columns so you can't adjust the input or entry based on the question. I might suggest that you leverage buttons and the ability for OpenAsPopup and data-refresh so that your users click a question - answer it in a pop up and save - then close the window back down and refresh or open the next question. With the workflow you've described, Grid Edit will be a little too limiting unless you pare back the dynamic input style you've described. 
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Hi Chayce, Thank you so much for your response.

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One question/sub question will be used in multiple checklist, hence I created a template table to show checklist and list of questions connected to it. 

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  1. Predecessor setup needs a start date and end date right? Can you please explain more on how to set this logic using predecessor please
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  3. Let me explain this with an example: Question: Are you creating new app in QB? If yes then display Sub Question: Provide details about the new app. When a checklist with the above question is selected in the product table, I want the Sub questions to be displayed as well. Is it possible to display the sub question based on the Question's input?
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  5. User will be updating the answers in Grid edit format. I'm thinking to create a table specific to the Input types and choices, connect it back to the Questions table. Do you think that's a good solution or do you have any other recommendations?
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Thanks for your time Chayce. Appreciate your help



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Hi Chayce, Thank you so much for your response.

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One question/sub question will be used in multiple checklist, hence I created a template table to show checklist and list of questions connected to it. 

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  1. Predecessor setup needs a start date and end date right? Can you please explain more on how to set this logic using predecessor please
  2. \n
  3. Let me explain this with an example: Question: Are you creating new app in QB? If yes then display Sub Question: Provide details about the new app. When a checklist with the above question is selected in the product table, I want the Sub questions to be displayed as well. Is it possible to display the sub question based on the Question's input?
  4. \n
  5. User will be updating the answers in Grid edit format. I'm thinking to create a table specific to the Input types and choices, connect it back to the Questions table. Do you think that's a good solution or do you have any other recommendations?
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Thanks for your time Chayce. Appreciate your help



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Hemavathy Rajendran
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Validation error: Invalid date/time value: \"CLEAR\"

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Also tried \"\" and same error. I'll update when I find the solution.
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Validation error: Invalid date/time value: \"CLEAR\"

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Also tried \"\" and same error. I'll update when I find the solution.
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I also pinged QB Support.

Use {{CLEAR}} to empty the contents of a date type field in a pipeline recipe step.

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I also pinged QB Support.

Use {{CLEAR}} to empty the contents of a date type field in a pipeline recipe step.

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Jim Harrison
transparency = knowledge + understanding : The Scrum Dudes
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What about clearing a value in a multiple choice field via update pipeline? I'm able to clear dates just fine. Thoughts? 

Todd

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What about clearing a value in a multiple choice field via update pipeline? I'm able to clear dates just fine. Thoughts? 

Todd

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what do you suggest to put in the pipeline to keep the first date entered but delete any subsequent date?



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what do you suggest to put in the pipeline to keep the first date entered but delete any subsequent date?



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Lorrie, can you make a new question instead of adding to this thread. Please describe your use case more fully as I don't understand it.



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Lorrie, can you make a new question instead of adding to this thread. Please describe your use case more fully as I don't understand it.



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I started with Mark's initial post and found the correct syntax trough trial and error

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I started with Mark's initial post and found the correct syntax trough trial and error

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